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Posted By pink leader 09/08/2010 19:13:29
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Trying to undertsand how this works.

The default is 800' vert and 3.0NM horizontal.

I guess this means that if current track and altitude takes you to a point where vert clearance is <800', then at the 3 NM point you will get a warning on screen.

Or it could mean that if you are going to pass within 3 miles of a clearance <800', then you will be warned.

Also how does this work in the circuit and on landing? I have noticed being plagued with ATZ warnings in the circuit and have switched the machine off. But I dont remember terrain warnings  .. maybe these were switched off anyway.

What settings have others used to get the best balance?

David

PS Similar principles apply to obstructions I assume.

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 Posted 10/08/2010 09:58:16
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You're right, the language used here could be a lot better. The horizontal terrain threshold is actually the horizontal distance to the side of your track that we use for analysing terrain. So if there's a mountain peak 3nm to your side, we'll include that in our calculation of what height the approaching terrain is, for warnings.

Terrain warnings (and others too actually) are disabled when you're within 5nm of your start or destination airfields.

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OK. Lets take the example of flying from Oban to Inverness up the Great Glen as I did earlier this year. Cloudbase was pretty low and so whole way up I wd have got non-stop terrain warnings  .. and the stress level of low cloud was high without continuous warnings. Amending the horizontal limit in flight wd be impossible (even if keyboard worked in WinCE). I suppose I might have been able to untick it  .. doubtful.

Suggest either absolute terrain clearance via the map  .. but destroys the simplicity of your maps, or another terrain page entirely (a la garmin) or  a simple way to turn off terrain warnings quickly & easily in flight

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OK. Lets take the example of flying from Oban to Inverness up the Great Glen as I did earlier this year. Cloudbase was pretty low and so whole way up I wd have got non-stop terrain warnings .. and the stress level of low cloud was high without continuous warnings. Amending the horizontal limit in flight wd be impossible (even if keyboard worked in WinCE). I suppose I might have been able to untick it .. doubtful.

Suggest either absolute terrain clearance via the map .. but destroys the simplicity of your maps, or another terrain page entirely (a la garmin) or a simple way to turn off terrain warnings quickly & easily in flight

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Would the new format of version 1.4 allow you to easily toggle terrain warnings via the touchscreen?

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Doesn't look like it to me. Still the WinCE menu to alter.

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PS Like the Reverse Route addition

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 Posted 10/08/2010 18:30:11
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Turning off terrain warnings is as simple as unchecking the tickbox in the dialog specifically created so that people have control over which warnings are shown. Plus, terrain warnings are off by default. So I'm really not clear on what it is you're asking for here.
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WE are getting 2 points muddled.

1. Current terrain awareness is different from other progs  .. not necessarily a crit, just different. Furthermore, the vert nav feature that looks ahead does most of the job. Originally I was trying to find out how the feature worked. My further comments were re absolute terrain shading as per Garmin, PFMS etc. But SD vert nav does similar thing except you cannot "seek out" abetter (lower terrain) route if needed as it only looks straight ahead. So this is just a debating point and function clarification.

2. The other point referred to how one toggles the feature in flight. The suggestion seemed to be that 1.3.3 had put it in the menu as opposed to WinCE box with tick for on or off. It hasn't and I dont think it should  .. but just my opinion.

Thats all

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 Posted 10/08/2010 19:22:18
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I don't think such settings should be in a menu either; they're best left in settings dialogs.

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